New England Equine Rescues

Caution: This page is frivolous bologna frought with
lies.  It has been put here for those people trying to find the truth.  If you
dislike drama...GO BACK NOW!

And, although I started this page just to clear up any questions about The QARR, I have found it to be very helpful in making people see that there are others out there who like to cause trouble for rescues, and rescuers, simply because of their own personal issues.  Now with all the lies and rumors going around, I have decided to expand on it, so that the people who don't know the real truth can see it, in writing.  Maybe THIS will force those people to stick with the facts, and stop trying to hurt those of us who are genuinely trying to help horses.

Surrender form.  The contract between NEER and QARR:     Link to surrender contracts: http://www.newenglandequinerescues.com/QARR 1 .jpg                                          http://http://www.newenglandequinerescues.com/qarr 2.jpg   The COMPLAINT:   From: MuleKist Date: 3/18/2008 7:54:52 AM To: NewEnglandEquineRescues@yahoogroups.com Subject: [NewEnglandEquineRescues] QARR HORSES SAFE AT MEADOWGATE? WHO KNOWS?   We just learned that our QARR horses we turned over to Beth at NEER are being kept at MeadowGate Rescue in Ithica Ny, remember that is the rescue that no one ever heard of before? When we signed the horses over to NEER it was our understanding, as Beth told us in an email, that they would be placed with "a rescue friend" of hers. It was our understanding that NEER would retain ownership and that NEER would, as stipulated in the surrender form, try to find them adoptive homes, and that NEER would ultimatley be responsible for our horses. We hope this is the case and are waiting to hear back from Beth, as we know nothing of this "MeadowGate" place, and in fact, have heard that they "breed" and sell horses outright?!   To All,   I never told Chris that I was taking the horses personally, I told her that I would help place them safely.  Meadowgate is in NY, approved by 2 SPCAs, the local authorities, Colleen of ERR, and was physically checked by Nancy Drumm (now known as the 'NEER Farm Checker') where the horses presently are.  They do not sell horses. They do NOT breed horses... http://www.nyhorserescue.net  (And the pics are not 'real' because many of their horses are seizures.)   Thank You M. for the transport donation...$350. And thank you Dale, for dealing SO professionally with this situation, giving us a great price, and being honorable...  dmhauling@hotmail.com   ~Beth.   (Please contact me with ANY questions... fatoldfarmwife@verizon.net )     **PS.. I have spoken to Pam at Meadowgate, and she has agreed to put a special NO BREEDING clause into her adoption contract for the QARR 3 mares.  And, Chris sent the registration papers with the shipper to Meadow Gate.  For those who do not know this??...BAD IDEA if you don't want your horses bred, and/or stolen by an unscrupulous hauler!!! (All from the Chris Jubic/QARR web site, now changed, requesting help.): The Web site: (as it was before alterations) QUARTER-ACRE RESCUE RANCH~ BECAUSE WE CARE HOME OUR PHILOSOPHY HORSE $LAUGHTER FACTS SOS FOR CATS & DOGS SOS 4 HORSES SOS FOR MULES! THE VERSITALITY OF MULES OUR BLACK LIST BOT-FLY LARVE KITTY SUCCESS STORIES FRIENDS & ASSOCIATES HEROS ABROAD PET PEEVES & PETITIONS FAVORITE LINKS SUGGESTED READS QUOTEABLE QUOTES TACK N' MORE STORE FARM GIVEAWAY! GUESTBOOK CONTACT US IMMEDIATE HOMES NEEDED URGENT! Placement needed immediately for the four (4) horses below. Financial difficulties force us to seek new homes for all of our horses ASAP. There is no more $$$ for hay or to care for them properly, and our pastures and paddocks are a mess.  We had thought our five-year old lawsuit against two thieving partners in another venture would have settled by now, but no such luck. Looks like it is going to drag on through 2008 also. (See details on our "Farm Giveaway" Page) We even had to file a Chapter 13 bankruptcy in the interm to save our home. Meanwhile, the horses got to go immediately, for their own good. >> We are hoping to turn them over (surrender ownership) to a reputable rescue where they will eventually be placed into good, permanent  loving homes.  This is a desperate suitation for the horses as we can no longer afford to even buy their hay and the paddocks are a mucky, muddy,manure-filled mess. <<  They are four GREAT horses whom we love dealry but naturally want what is best for them, and that is to get the heck out of here! Can you help? If not, maybe you know someone who can?  Time is of the essence. Thanks!  Meet MR. YUKON CORNELLIUS.... The "terrible gentleman". YUKON CORNELLIUS is a 19+ yr old Morgan gelding. Yukons previous owner loved him dearly but circumstances forced her to surrender. Apparently, he wasent getting the proper care at the stable where he was being borded @ $450.00 per MO. He came to us half-starved and full of worms. We took care of the worms and put about 50lbs back on him so far. naturally, being half-starved, Yukon does have "food aggression" issues that we are currently working through & have noticed a BIG improvement in that department. Yukon does have some trust issues, nothing serious but it is apparent he has been badly handled at some point in his life, and he seems to prefer women. He is a "mush" once he gets to know & trust you - though he is VERY jealous of other horses and wont let them around when you are near! Its not just 'all about food" with Yukon, he wants ALL  the attention for himself,...poor thing, he is SO  emotionally needy, we think he would do well by himself as an only horse. Seems like he could care less about being around other horses....he likes people! Yukon is VERY responsive to kindness - soaks it all in! . LOVES a good brushing, first at the gate to greet you,....and perfect ground manners. Sound  and rides English (or western?) for advanced  beginner, as we are told he is "forward going," but we havent tried him yet. Just letting him be a horse for awhile while we fatten him up some.   FREE-LEASE or TEMPORARY FOSTER CARE are other options to approved homes. Give us a call, lets talk. URGENT! Meet: DIAL KATHY'S CLOWN:  DIAL KATHYS CLOWN is a 5 yr old reg paint mare that was pulled out of a Pennsylvania  kill-pen for us by the good folks at AnotherChance4Horses and re-homed to us after we paid the kill-buyer/owner's ransom -so much a pound, same as he would have gotten if he had bought her to slaughter. She is a small horse or a large pony, at 13.1 HH. This mare is a sweetheart, we think imprinted at birth. Not a mean or 'scared' bone in her body. A real "puppy dog" personality, wants to follow you around wherever you go....even into the house! Poor Kathy is a special needs case because of an old bow in her rear pastern area. Not lame but "rests" her bad leg a lot. She is a young horse and likes to run and play, so she "blew her bow out" twice this spring while romping. Doc Barnes came down to see her both times, and said, aside from stall rest, cold-packs, leg-wraps and a little bute,  there is nothing really to be done for an old bow like this. Ideally, he said, she should have ultra-sound done to acertain the exact nature and extent of the damage. This is something that we just cannot afford to have done at this time. Meanwhile, No vigiorus riding or heavy riders. Shes greenbroke to ride but would be best suited for a backyard pet and/or light lead-line rides for youngsters. Here is a link where you can see her bloodlines; lots of TB even Man O' War 8 generations back - but NO BREEDING! Heres why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjzwuY2R9OI  http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/dial+kathys+clown FREE-LEASE  or TEMPORARY FOSTER CARE are other options to approved homes. Give us a call, lets talk. Meet:  BANNER'S MISTY COMET;  BANNERS MISTY COMET is a beautiful registered appendix/QH mare out of Sonny Dee Bar Sonny Go Lucky lines. Comet, 14yrs old, is a "sunburnt" black and 15HH. She was professionally trained to saddle as a two year old, but suffered a bow tendon in one rear foot many years ago, and has been used almost exclusively as a brood mare eversince. Old bow dosent seem to bother her at all. We found her on her way to meat-market auction when her owner/breeder went out of business and no longer had any use for her. She does have some trust issues, but once you have worked these out, she is a marshmellow! (She gives kisses on command!) I am confident with the right person and some TLC, she will come around to riding again. Ground manners are impeccible; she will stand tied all day, and lounges BEAUTIFULLY, so easily you could use a thread-line and she would never break it! If you enjoy working a horse from the ground, Comet may be the horse for you! Comet was free-leased locally and when we went to visit her recently, she was in such bad shape we had to get her out of there. She came back seriously under-weight and "heevy" from moldy hay -  Heeves seem to be subsiding now that she has good hay. Below  is a link where you can see her very impressive bloodlines: Comet also has Man O' War bloodlines about 8 generations back. However, NO BREEDING, heres why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjzwuY2R9OI .     http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/banners+misty+comet FREE-LEASE or TEMPORARY FOSTER CARE are other options to approved homes. Give us a call, lets talk. Meet: MS. STONEY SANCHEZ (left)  MS. STONEY SANCHEZ is an 11 yr old double registered tri-colored paint mare out of IMPRESSIVE & ZIPPO PINE BAR lines. "Chezy' was also pulled out of a PA kill-pen by the good folks at AnotherChance4Horses and re-homed to us. Chezy  is shown here (on the left) with her best friend Dial Kathy's Clown. We are hoping these two can stay together where ever they go. Chezy came to us "long in the toe" and Ole' Doc Barnes took xrays and diagnosed Chezy with  "slight laminitis" on one front hoof, and declared that foot  "2.5"  lame at a trot. Our "barefoot podiatry specialistis" has everything under control with regular corrective trimming she be OK for light riding. Chezy is a 'good broke" western riding horse for "advanced beginner," although she has not been ridden in awhile, she is ready for some light riding but will need some refresher courses by an experienced handler. Here is a link to Chezy's impressive  pedigree; nevertheless,  NO BREEDING, heres why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjzwuY2R9OI  FIXED LINK TO MZ. STONEY SANCHEZ'S PEDIGREE: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/mz+stoney+sanchez  FREE-LEASE or TEMPORARY FOSTER CARE are other options to approved homes. Give us a call, lets talk.   IMMEDIATE HOMES NEEDED URGENT! Placement needed immediately for the four (4) horses below.  Financial difficulties force us to seek new homes for all of our horses ASAP.  There is no more $$$ for hay or to care for them properly, and our pastures and paddocks are a mess.  We had thought our five-year old lawsuit against two thieving partners in another venture would have settled by now, but no such luck. Looks like it is going to drag on through 2008 also. (See details on our "Farm Giveaway" Page)  We even had to file a Chapter 13 bankruptcy in the interm to save our home. Meanwhile, the horses got to go immediately, for their own good. We are hoping to turn them over (surrender ownership) to a reputable rescue where they will eventually be placed into good, permanent loving homes.  This is a desperate suitation for the horses as we can no longer afford to even buy their hay and the paddocks are a mucky, muddy, manure-filled mess.   They are four GREAT horses whom we love dealry but naturally want what is best for them, and that is to get the heck out of here! Can you help? If not, maybe you know someone who can? Time is of the essence. Thanks!  The page about her goats: RICK & TAMMY AMIDON,  Rt. 67 Buskirk, NY - several years ago, we adopted a pair of young Billy-goat brothers to these people, who SOLD them  immediately to slaughter....we did win a small claims judgment against them in the Hoosic Falls Town Court,....but unfortunately, that dosent help the poor goats. STAY AWAY FROM THESE PEOPLE and DO NOT let them get ahold of your animals!!! They are scammers out to make a buck off YOUR animals!     And Mules:   MULES MISSING I'm sorry,... so sorry.... Last year we adopted out two mules to a couple from HARTFORD, NY, who called themselves "LONG-EARRED EXPRESS". The two individuals are named GERTRUDE "Gerty" PANCUSHEK (aka Karen?) and her partner, STEVEN WOODELL. They adopted the two mules under written contract and we have just recently found out that THEY SOLD THEM! All attempts to reach them have failed.  We are in the process of commencing a case against them in the Hartford, NY small claims court, -  but will have to FIND them first! . ANYONE knowing or having information about the whereabouts of these PEOPLE or the MULES , please contact us. . Below are some pics of the two mules.  "Honey" the mule's name was changed to "Jolene." Honey is a chestnut molly mule (said to possibly be a "hinny.") approximately 8yrs old and stands about 14.2. Honey has a few 'white-hair" scars around the pressure areas where she was used in harness. I believe you can see one in the pic, on her right rear flank. She also has one on the left at the base of her neck.   The other mule is a smaller buckskin "quarter-type" pony-mule,  a gelding,  approx 12HH......his name was Danny, approximately 12 yrs old. . He had "bad feet" in front (pidgon-toed) and a cancerous (?) mole on his rump, both were supposed to have been corrected by the adoptees, but we doubt this was done.. Below: Honey on left, Danny on right  PLEASE if you know anything we would greatly appreciate your sharing,...we really just want the mules back, or at least, to know that they are safe in a good home and stand no chance of being abused, neglected or sent to slaughter.....THANKS!   And cats and dogs: We have three cats and one dog in need of immediate veneniary care that we sadly are unable to provide for them right now. I have been on the phone with every vetenarian   << within 100 miles trying to find one "with a heart" that will allow us to set up an account which would allow us to get these animals vetted and make monthly payments,...all to no avail. They all want payment in full immediately.  So we are once again reaching out to you, the other rescues, to help us do the right thing for these animals. We are asking for help in getting these animals the proper care they need. We are not soliciting for donations. Whether you have or know of a compassionate vet that will allow us to make payments (we have good credit) or another way to go about it is to find a rescue that would  << "switch" animals with us, you take our sick ones and give us your healthy ones to foster care  << for you. You keep our animals until we pay-off the vet bill with you. Whatever it takes. There must be a way if we all put our heads together. We have tried to give these animals in need away to other rescues and all say THEY WOULD but they have no room. How about the exchange arrangement as mentioned above? We take some of yours and you take these ones we have that need immediate care. They are: 1. Bot Fly Kitty                                                                   This is the little "bugger" as seen on his own page of this website. He has been to the vet THREE times alreaady and I am afraid his condition IS NOT getting any better and in fact is worsening. The wound hole is still oozing brown stuff and it sounds as if it is working   << its way into his lungs. He is coughing and sneezing quite a bit now and there is a foul odor   << coming from his mouth. I am sure one of those things must have died in him and is rotting   << away inside him causing "secondary infection." This is what I been telling the vet all along that I was afraid of but she kept saying "wait and see." . We still owe on the last bill for him also. 2. Big Eyes; This is our older cat with peridontal problems. We have had him to the vet three times also and some teeth were exracted but he is still having terrible trouble, and we STILL OWE that vet! He has ulcerated bleeding gums and possibly some more bad teeth and   << is in pain all the time, sometimes worse than others, going into fits where he literally   <<!! "crawls up the walls" in pain.. He is having a very difficult time eating and is loosing   << ground daily, losing weight and strength. He needs continued vet care that is impossible for us to provide at this time. We are certain he is failing and will die soon without more vet care.He  was a feral rescue but turned out to be one of the lovingest cats you will ever meet. 3. Puddy; also Puddy was an abandond cat who was left behind when his owners moved away. He always "wanted to be a TV star so here he is "on TV." Puddy (or Pudd-pudd) had peridontal problems and we took care of that and are still payiing off the balance of the $350 it costs to fix his teeth. He only has a few left (the canines) but eats well with what hes got. He recently developed a problem with his ear. You can hear the "liquid" splashing around in there and he is digging at it all the time. Ear infection,   << I think? He is otherwise healthy but needs to get to a vet ASAP for the ear.. 4. Boy is a is a king-dobie, at 27" tall, was an owner surrender we have had for about 6mos now. He came fully vetted with papers and all, but has recently started to drool & to inermittently "shake.". I thought he   << had been poisoned somehow as they are typical symptoms but that was several days ago when he first started and I think if it were poison he would be gone by now. Yesterday I noticed his jaw started to twitch   << so now I am thinking distemper. Parvo? Some nurologic problem? He needs to get to a vet like, three days ago!   << Can anybody help in anyway to get these animals to a vet ASAP? We don't have any $$$ right this minute but we do have a regular income and can make payments to whomever wants to help. We are NOT asking for something for nothing,...just a little help for us to get them all vetted. It is breaking our hearts having to watch them suffer and we WILL NOT drop them off at any kill-shelter. We need help immediately and are reaching out (once again) to like-minded orgs for it.  Any ideas? Appreciate it. Where she claims that Christy DID offer help: (She has been posting on as many boards as possible that Christy would NOT help.)

--- In TOTALLYCOMMITTED2THECAUSE@yahoogroups.com, "Christine A Jubic" > <mulekist@> wrote: > > > > As you all know, due to severe financial difficulties we are facing > > at this time, I have been trying to turn over our four rescued > horses > > to another rescue. Although AC4H has offered to take two of them if > I > > can manage to cover the cost of shipping ($350), a rescue closer to > > home right here in NY has offered to take all four, of course, I > will > > still have to come up with the full amount to ship ($415) but > > MeadowGate Rescue in the Finger Lakes region of NY has offered to > > take them all. I never heard of this rescue but Colleen from Equine > > Rescue Resource, also in NY, has recommended MeadowGate to me. > > Problem is, I never heard of either of these organizations so am > > posting around to see what I can find out about them. If anyone > knows > > anything about either of these orgs I would appreciate your sharing. > > > > Here is the link to MeadowGate: > > > http://www.nyhorserescue.net > > > > And below is the link to ERR:(becuase of the long URL, you may have to cut & paste it into your web browser for it to work,..make sure you cut the whole URL particularly the "&catid=5" at the end or it wont work. Thanks!) > > > http://www.animalconcerns.org/resource.htmlitemid=20010802190726924569 > &catid=5 And here is a link to our site where you can see all four of our horses that need to find new homes. Once at the homepage, go to the "SOS 4 HORSES" page to see them: http://www.freewebs.com/mulekist Thanks!   Where she admits to not being able to properly care for the animals:   "QARR" <QARR@nycap.rr.com>  Add Mobile Alert Yahoo! DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by yahoogroups.com. Learn more Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:01:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [Equine_Rescue_Ethics] Re: MuleKist and her animals For starters., about a year ago,...I  posted repeatedly to  AC$H, NEER and all those folk, LifeLines, Petfinder, Equine.com, DreamHorse, etc.,..I dont know who all else but I wasent asking for $$$ I was asking forr someone just to TAKE these horses off my hands as I couldnt affored to properly care for them, letting people know that I just took them knowing I wasnt ready for them but took them anyways just to save their lives. The only thing I got was "based" and bashed good, about being a "bad horse mommie" and "getting in over my head," reminding me, chastising me , for even taking them in in the first place,..if I didnt have the means to care for them properly,"....I well remember shooting back to them, "well, what would you rather I have done? Let them go to slaughter?" .....anyways,  FinaLLY, i think it was Beth from Neer who suggested I join the ABR/FOB group to see if I could find help there.....My major concern at that time was, one of the horses we had got from AC$H came to us "long in the toe" with an awkward stride, not fluild and smooth as it should be, but with knee joints seemingly to "pop" into place, all stiff legged,.......I wasnt sure what was wrong with her, but I knew xrays would be needed that we couldnt afford....so, I did "go begging" on the FOBs groups but BE ADVISED! I DID NOT go there to fundraise, I went there looking for someone to take my horses NOT to raise any money!. No takers on the horses after suffering another good bashing there,  some did come foward to contribute to a fund so the horse could get her xrays, I  forget who all evverybody was but Cherly Hanna and Becky Montoya were the two biggest contributors.   << Anywyasm 3 or 4 people gave approximately $225.00 to the the xrays done. So Doc Barrnes from Saratoga Equine came down and took the xrays (total bill$189) and declared he horse "mildly laminitic" and 2.5 lame on the left front at a trot. Still I kept posting everywhere for someone to come and just take them,....besides online stuff I called every rescue around here,..including The Double LL, Ashleys Barn and even Sue Wagner at Equine Advocates who lives less then 50 miles from here,.....I am really disappointed in her because the best advise she could give me (she said) was to have them euthanised, that is, if I couldnt properly care for them...Imagine my suprize to hear something like that from someone I always considered to be a real-horse hero. Imagine suggesting euthanising four young healthy horses? I am appalled. I could see this coming, the financial disaster,....as things developed with the lawsuit dragging on & on, (we are in our 6th year now,,....and our lawyer, the crook, went and got disbarred!) and , me losing my job at the law firm Iworked at cause the moved to Syraces,...and then  my started to break down rapidly,(dam cigarettes!) and my husbands hours were cut at work, ad all the animals seem to get sick and/or need vetting all at once and we WERE paying on those bills and ARE STILL (twas that feral cat rescue done us in, I think,.....7 or 8 of all very sick,....never again I tell you with the feral, unless,of course, yougot a whole lot of $$$ to expend)..Anyways, the next thing I did was to call our local humane society, (go see the blurb posted to the AC$H to see, oh thats right, they woulldnt  put it through,....I think Beth let it through I think on the NEER groups and I am sure I have it on my totallycommited2thecause group someplace there also, but the gist of it was this: I called thisoutfiit to see if they could help me place my horses, relating to them the financial problems we were having and the difficulites we faced in properly caring for these horrses. Although MOHAWK-HUDSON HUMANE SOCIETY is a smal animal shelter, they have been known to help place horses.....soooo, I reached out to them....but no help to be found there also,....even instead, "a threat."Here ist he post that gotblocked    MOHAWK-HUDSON HUMANE SOCIETY, NY GIVES ILL ADVICE > > Update on my stuggle to get new homes for our horses, I called the > Hudson-Mohawk Humane Society in Menands NY, to see if they could take > and/or help me place the horses asap and a HORSE RESCUER that works > there "yelled" at me for (the usual) being a "bad horse-mommy" > and "getting in over my head." The best advice she could give me was > to > suggest that I take them to auction, oh yeah, a "good" auction, she > said. I told her I would NEVER even sell a horse PERIOD, let alone > take > it to auction,... even a so-called "good one." I asked her what > happens > when they get down to skin and bones, would she would come get them > then? She replied, "well yes, but added, then you would get arrested." > Well folks, there you have it. If the horses get too skinny > eventhough > I reached out for help that didnt come, I will still get arrested? > That > would be a novel case for prosecution, dont you think? > I did have one offer however, that wouldnt cost me anything. My red- > neck deer/coon/turkey hunting backwoods brother in law said > he would come down anytime and put a bullet in their heads for me, and > even bury them for me with his bucket-loader. Isnt that nice of him? > I > didnt know he was such an animal lover.   Banned from AC4H for innappropriate behavior:

>>>>>And NO, they won't ever BE sold.<<<<<<<<<<

Ok, this is priceless!!  Chris Jubic made a Care2 petition all
about how I took her horses and gave them to a 'breeding' farm. 
Here's her petition:

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/neer-meadowgate-please-dont

Due to financial difficulties we are experiencing at Quarter-Acre Rescue Ranch (QARR), on March 13, 2008  we "surrendered" our four rescue horses to Beth Hill Ross of New England Equine Rescue (NEER) trusting that they would remain the property of NEER and that NEER would "do the right thing" by our horses, be responsible for them and place them into "forever loving homes" through NEER's "normal adoptive procedures,"  - as IS STATED on the surrender form. However, we have since come to learn that what NEER did was to  deliver and transfer ownership "outright" to Pam Watros of MeadowGate Farm "and rescue" in Newfield, NY. There was no contract between the two "rescues" providing any protections for the horses future well-being, and up until the time of this placement, no one had ever heard of this "MeadowGate" rescue before, and they WERE NOT on NEER's list of "approved rescues" to work with nor was/is MeadowGate a part of NEER's tight knit little community of horse rescuers they call the "Horse Rescue Coalition (HRC)." Prior to this incident, Pam Watros and MeadowGate were virtual strangers to us all, including all 600 NEER members as well as everyone in the "AnotherChance4Horses (AC4H) Rescue Groups . Beth of NEER does claim to have "made a few calls" to "some people" in regrards to this "rescue,"  but no farm visit, vet or farrier references were checked, still our horses were shipped directly from here to Pam at MeadowGate, without our knowledge!  Nevertheless, Beth of NEER just simply out and out GAVE ownership of our four rescued horses to Pam Watros of MeadowGate Farm without ANY contract and KNOWING she planned to breed them! Moreover, although it is written as part of the surrender form, that NEER is to give us periodic updates on our surrendered horses, Beth from NEER refuses to give us any info as to the status of our horses. Last week we called Pam from MeadowGate to see what "the plan" was for our horses, and she told us over the phone that her plan was to breed the three (well-bred) mares we surrendered to NEER! She did say that she was waiting on a vetenarians evaluation as to whether they would be suitable for her breeding program. If yes, she will keep the mares for herself simply to breed! We let Pam know "right then and there" that it was certainly NOT our intention to allow any breeding of the mares when we signed them over to NEER. QARR has a well-publicized NO BREEDING policy that NEER was well aware of and we thought that NEER had a NO BREEDING policy too!  We are VEHEMITLY opposed to any breeding of our mares,  particularly since all of our mares have "foot and leg" issues,  so that allowing them to breed would not be in their best interest. Now Pam Watros of MeadowGate Farm has also cut the lines of communication with us ALSO, so we have NO CLUE if the vetenarians evaluation was done or not, and if so, what was the determination as to the three mares "suitability" for breeding?  We hope, but arent certain, that the answer was "no" to any idea of breeding.  We are writing this petition in hopes that all horse lovers, rescuers and protectors who believe it is NOT right to BREED rescued horses under any circumstances, let alone mares with "compromised" feet and leg issues! Please sign this petition to ask BETH of NEER and PAM of MEADOWGATE NOT to ALLOW the breeding of QARR's horses FOR ANY REASON by ANYONE - and to put it in writing for us!  When we turned these horses over to NEER, little did we expect NEER to turn around and give them away to someone who would breed them! Please, help us to prevent any breeding of our surrendered horses, sign the petition and call Pam at MeadowGate (the new owners) at (607)  or Beth from NEER at (401)   and let them know that you are OPPOSED to the plan to breed the QARR mares.  As of today, 3/21/08, Now NEER is saying that there IS a contract between NEER & MEADOWGATE,  made up after the fact of course, and NOW they are saying there will be no breeding "if offered for adoption." but they dont say NO BREEDING PERIOD  and still,.... we havent any proof that any such contract does in fact exist,... and we are not going to sit around waiting for one or all of the mares to turn up pregnant so we are going to DEMAND proof before we stop fighting for our horses welfare; If there is such a contract with a STRICT NO BREEDING FOR ANYONE NOT EVEN PAM  clause, ..then I ask BETH & PAM to sign on to this petition stating so, please be explicitly clear that there will be NO BREEDING AT ALL for the QARR horses, BY ANYONE, EVEN PAM...be sure to sign your real name and the name of your organization, also,....and then we will believe you and let this all go, but we need to see it to believe it. You can END it all HERE & NOW by signing this petition as a PUBLIC DECLARATION that there will be NO BREEDING of QARR's surrendered horses, period. The ball is in your park, guys. We are waiting for you to sign on and make your promice here; ............SAVE A LIFE NOT CREATE A LIFE! 
 Thank You for Caring about our beloved horses and about the "un-wanted" horse over-population problem!  

Here's the good part:  She has removed ALL of the signatures that
are not in her favor...notice all of the missing numbers. 

Here's the better part!!...People have been copying their
signatures.  I am pasting some of them below: